From mike at EGFABT.ORG Thu Jul 15 00:43:47 1993 From: mike at EGFABT.ORG (Mike Sherwood) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 00:43:47 PDT Subject: xor data hiding? In-Reply-To: <9307150536.AA03891@triton.unm.edu> Message-ID: <0HwP7B2w165w@EGFABT.ORG> J. Michael Diehl writes: > Many encryption tools such as ripem, pgp, and dolphin can recognize their own > output...which indicates that there is a footprint to that particular > implimentation. in this case, you're just trying to garble what people see so why not just xor "hello, world." /bin/csh or \command.com on top of it to avhieve that result. No need for anything significant, I mean, if you xor 'X' over the whole thing, you've achieved the same result - after all, if someone wants to xor 'X' to knock that level of encryption(if I may call simple substitution "encryption") then it's fair to assume that the person knows it's cyphertext and they want the information below it, so that's a good place to use some decent encryption.. "congratulations, you have found the secret message. send the answer to old pink care of the funny farm" (Pink Floyd, The Wall (backmasking)) is what readily comes to mind when i see what you're getting at.. after all, searching a disk for data that fits specific patterns is one thing, figuring out that one of the index files for a database program with literally hundreds of database files and indecies (I used to work on programming such a database, so I know they exist and that they are a perfect hiding place for just about everything) is actually an encrypted file isn't a walk in the park. anyway, enough babbling - hope some of it makes sense. =) the park -- Mike Sherwood internet: mike at EGFABT.ORG uucp: ...!sgiblab!egfabt!mike